A variety of thoughts concerning decline, renewal, refocus, and healthy effective practices in the Vineyard movement, both here in the U.S. and globally.
Luke thank you Thank for bringing forth that which has been effective and avoided, overlooked, undervalued and diminished over time. Thank you for stating those effective principles and elements straightforwardly. Submission to the Triune God and to these principles and practices is what is needed. If I were to point at a single thing that had happened that has harmed the Vineyard it be the tendency of “second-guessing” the Kingdom, and the Bible and Wimber’s principles. And try to enact change that wasn’t improvement, it was just different.
All improvement is change but not all change is improvement.
Thanks, Jeff. I think that's a great way to say it. Some of the "developments" and "improvements" have seemingly been anything BUT that. When we stop "doing the stuff" and drift from the basic core activities of the Kingdom, it's bound to be a problem.
Thankfully I've discovered that there are still MANY in Vineyard churches all over the world who are doing things... and that makes me very encouraged.
Not to mention all of the churches that aren't Vineyard but do these things also because they follow the Bible :)
Luke, excellent analysis. Thank you for this.
Luke thank you Thank for bringing forth that which has been effective and avoided, overlooked, undervalued and diminished over time. Thank you for stating those effective principles and elements straightforwardly. Submission to the Triune God and to these principles and practices is what is needed. If I were to point at a single thing that had happened that has harmed the Vineyard it be the tendency of “second-guessing” the Kingdom, and the Bible and Wimber’s principles. And try to enact change that wasn’t improvement, it was just different.
All improvement is change but not all change is improvement.
Thanks, Jeff. I think that's a great way to say it. Some of the "developments" and "improvements" have seemingly been anything BUT that. When we stop "doing the stuff" and drift from the basic core activities of the Kingdom, it's bound to be a problem.
Thankfully I've discovered that there are still MANY in Vineyard churches all over the world who are doing things... and that makes me very encouraged.
Not to mention all of the churches that aren't Vineyard but do these things also because they follow the Bible :)